A: Dolorem existimo maximum malorum omnium. M: Etiamne malus quam dedecus? A: Non audeo id dicere equidem, et me pudet tam cito de sententia esse deiectam. M: Magis esset pudendum, si in sententia permaneres.A: I think pain the greatest of all evils. M: Greater than disgrace ? A: That indeed I dare not affirm; and yet I am ashamed to be so soon thrown down from my position. M: It would have been a greater shame to have maintained it.Book II, Chapter V; translation by Andrew P. Peabody