Moyers: Unlike heroes such asor , we're not going on our journey to save thebut to save ourselves.Campbell: But in doing that you save the world. The influence of a vital person vitalizes, there's no doubt about it. The world withoutis a .have the notion of saving the world by shifting things around, changing the , and who's on top, and so forth. No, no! Any world is a valid world if it's alive. The thing to do is to bringto it, and the only way to do that is to find in your own case where the life is and become alive yourself.